My wife's 2013 WRX vs my 2013 Golf R comparison

[mOOsE]

2011 Subaru WRX: 5.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 98.2 mph
2011 Subaru STI: 5.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 97.4 mph
2012 VW Golf R: 6.2 seconds 0-60 mph & 14.4 @ 97.2 mph
2010 Evo X SE: 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.3 @ 103.4 mph

had to lol. Paid 31K for my AWD snow destroyer. Wish it had your interior though. VW excels at that. I like my seats, and my steering wheel lol.

[erod550]

Yea but it's an auto. :\ That's a dealbreaker right there. I'll take a car that is slightly slower 0-60 to have the way more fun experience of actually rowing gears.

Or I could just get a car that's faster despite being a manual, lol.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_1003_2011_ford_mustang_gt_premium_test/viewall.html

[erod550]

2011 Subaru WRX: 5.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 98.2 mph
2011 Subaru STI: 5.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 97.4 mph
2012 VW Golf R: 6.2 seconds 0-60 mph & 14.4 @ 97.2 mph
2010 Evo X SE: 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.3 @ 103.4 mph
2011 Mustang GT: 4.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 12.8 @ 110.8mph

had to lol.

And the Evo numbers aren't apples to apples with the STi anyway (which MT had at 5.0 0-60 and 13.6@99). That's an auto, which is a total dealbreaker imo. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of a performance auto but I still prefer rowing gears myself.

[erod550]

2011 Subaru WRX: 5.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 98.2 mph
2011 Subaru STI: 5.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 97.4 mph
2012 VW Golf R: 6.2 seconds 0-60 mph & 14.4 @ 97.2 mph
2010 Evo X SE: 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.3 @ 103.4 mph
2011 Mustang GT: 4.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 12.8 @ 110.8mph

had to lol.

And the Evo numbers aren't apples to apples with the STi anyway (which MT had at 5.0 0-60 and 13.6@99). That's an auto, which is a total dealbreaker imo. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of a performance auto but I still prefer rowing gears myself.

[GR-8]

Wow you go through cars quick. That was a good/interesting read. One thing for me, a reason why I dislike most Domestics, is that the interior has to be nice. I still find that the RX-8 and most every Mazda 04 and up have nicer interiors compared to most manufacturers. If I'm gonna get something and will be driving it everyday I want to be looking at something nice. Maybe that's why I never drive the Bronco.

What do the two put down to the wheels?

[mOOsE]

had to lol.

And the Evo numbers aren't apples to apples with the STi anyway (which MT had at 5.0 0-60 and 13.6@99). That's an auto, which is a total dealbreaker imo. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of a performance auto but I still prefer rowing gears myself.

nice! I felt that way about manuals too, but I prefer the SST over it hands down now. It's certainly a box of magic, but I like having the option for normal, sport, race all with the option of shifting on my own. But I've not driven other dual-clutch cars so i can't compare. It also helps that I have a bike quad that are manual... those I don't think i'd ever switch.

Wow you go through cars quick. That was a good/interesting read. One thing for me, a reason why I dislike most Domestics, is that the interior has to be nice. I still find that the RX-8 and most every Mazda 04 and up have nicer interiors compared to most manufacturers.

+1. I liked my MS3, and the RX8 interior is super nice. I think one of my favorite interiors was in a 350z and 350z though. Seems like many manufacturers go the extra mile with their coupe's or roadster interiors.

[roninsoldier83]

Other than the road course, the WRX is substantially quicker, especially factoring in the cheaper price. The R has it's place, and certainly has it's following... but I think your wife wins (they win anyways, even if you have a GT-R and she has a scooter...). Plus it sounds funny, she drives a "REX" and you drive a... "GOLFER" lol.

If we're using relative terms, then yes, I would say the WRX is a decent bit "quicker", but not "faster". The Subie has a HUGE amount of mid-range torque that helps it get out of the hole like a bat out of hell... but unfortunately, like most all Subaru's, boost drops off pretty hard as speeds increase. Like I said, from 0-60mph, no doubt, the WRX is the quicker car, but at higher speeds (i.e. 60-100mph) the R pulls harder. Me and the wife both agree on this. The powerbands are very different, the Subie has lots of mid-range, but doesn't pull very hard on the freeway, whereas the R is down in the mid-range department, but pulls progressively harder towards redline/at higher speeds.

For the money, the WRX is a tremendous bang for the buck IMO (hence why we bought one), but for my daily commute, as well as playing around on back-roads, I prefer my Golf R.

2011 Subaru WRX: 5.3 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 98.2 mph
2011 Subaru STI: 5.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.8 @ 97.4 mph
2012 VW Golf R: 6.2 seconds 0-60 mph & 14.4 @ 97.2 mph
2010 Evo X SE: 4.5 seconds 0-60 mph & 13.3 @ 103.4 mph
2003-2007 Suzuki SV1000: 10.82 @ 127.1

Had to lol.

If I wanted an EVO, I would have bought an EVO lol... Ditto for the STI. I used to own an STI. That car had full bolt-ons tuned on E85, full suspension mods, brake mods ect. It was an absolute riot to drive on the right road! As a daily driver it left a lot to be desired. I had a lot of fun in that car, but to me it really was just a play toy and I wanted something a bit easier to live with... I've been down that road before, I'm getting a bit too old for it. Different strokes for different folks.

The EVO is great at what it does, it really is, but it's not for me. It's loud, rides rough, everything looks & feels cheap and no matter what I did in that car (I've driven a couple X's) I couldn't get comfortable. I think a telescoping steering wheel would have helped a lot with that.. I don't know your stature, but I'm about 6'2" 212 lbs with a 33 inch waistline & fairly broad shoulders (I workout a good bit- bench 325 lbs, so decent sized upper body), maybe you're built a bit differently, but in the EVO I always felt like my knees were in the dashboard & steering wheel. Although, even if I could get comfortable, it still wouldn't have been for me.

I don't know if you have kids or not, but as stupid as it sounds, the EVO actually doesn't have enough trunk space for the family:

WRX/STI Sedan- 11.3 cu. ft
WRX/STI Hatch- 19.0 cu. ft
Golf R- 15.3 cu. ft
EVO- 6.9 cu. ft

^^^May sound stupid, but when you're trying to load up a play-n-pack, or a couple strollers to take the kiddos to the zoo, you might feel differently.

When I bought the R, I considered other cars, the WRX included, but since 95% of the time I'm just commuting, I wanted a nice car that was still comfortable for me and checked off all of my "needs" boxes. Didn't consider the STI or EVO... considered the WRX due to price point- it's hard to ignore at that price! Also considered the Audi A4 6MT & BMW 328xi 6MT. I liked the Audi & Bimmer, but you get a lot more for your money with the Golf R, in terms of not only performance, but also options and features I desired, with the same level of build quality. The Golf R is a genuinely nice car, that just so happens to have similar levels of performance to an STI (acceleration, braking cornering ect), but is easier to live with day to day and doesn't attract all the "mad tyte boy-racers".

An old saying I've heard 1000 times: "there will always be someone/something faster". Unfortunately, I don't take rally stages, drag strips or road courses on my way to work, or dropping the kiddos off at daycare haha! As I'm getting older, I'm realizing I like being comfortable and having a nice interior. I just also like to enjoy my commute, so the sporty, yet civilized Golf R suits me perfectly.

If I find myself having a severe "need for speed"/needing an adrenaline rush, I take the bike. Or, I just go to work.

had to lol.

And the Evo numbers aren't apples to apples with the STi anyway (which MT had at 5.0 0-60 and 13.6@99). That's an auto, which is a total dealbreaker imo. I'm starting to warm up to the idea of a performance auto but I still prefer rowing gears myself.

+1

I loved everything about my previous Infiniti G37x, except for that fact that it was an auto... and it was a quick shifting 7-speed at that... but I could never really feel connected to it without that third pedal. Otherwise, great car, I really enjoyed it.

Love my'13 WRX, love that I can beat STI's to 60 due to the gearing and I love the room I have to haul stuff around. Plus, you can't beat the price on 'em

Congrats on the WRX!! They really are great cars, and for the money, talk about an awesome value!

Wow you go through cars quick. That was a good/interesting read. One thing for me, a reason why I dislike most Domestics, is that the interior has to be nice. I still find that the RX-8 and most every Mazda 04 and up have nicer interiors compared to most manufacturers. If I'm gonna get something and will be driving it everyday I want to be looking at something nice. Maybe that's why I never drive the Bronco.

What do the two put down to the wheels?

Yep, I agree. I spend the majority of my time inside my car... as such, I like it to be nice.

Honestly, I had my VW GTI for 1.5 years & I loved it! Couldn't find anything else in that price range I would rather drive. The fact that the Golf/Rabbit/GTI has been on Car and Driver's 10Best list 10 times (including every year from 2007 until 2013) should say enough about those cars. Perfect blend of sport/performance, utility, comfort and luxury/solid build quality for the money! I just wished it was AWD for the winter... Enter the Golf R. Problem solved.

We just got the cars not too long ago, as such, I haven't strapped them to the rollers yet, but I'm sure we'll get around to it.

[mOOsE]

I don't know if you have kids or not, but as stupid as it sounds, the EVO actually doesn't have enough trunk space for the family:

WRX/STI Sedan- 11.3 cu. ft
WRX/STI Hatch- 19.0 cu. ft
Golf R- 15.3 cu. ft
EVO- 6.9 cu. ft

Not sure where you get your info, but it's false... The EVO X has no trunk

It's amusing for sure. It's more like a second engine compartment since the washer fluid and battery are back there. So in that respect, it has a lot of room under the back hood lol

I do have to say that my X isn't loud though, at least not inside. The MR suspension is also softer, yet better dampened than my MS3. But it's certainly no luxury car. Justin has TDI Golf that I've breathed heavily on while looking in through the glass. I think that if the Evo ever had to go, it would either be an SUV or one of those. 45+ MPG and a nice interior ftw. Although my Arai has the nicest interior of anything I've been in, and I am in that daily

[erod550]

My MS3 probably had the nicest interior of any of my previous vehicles. I really like my seats and my steering wheel, like Moose was saying about his Evo, and also the aluminum ball shifter is nice, but there is a lot of plastic in the interior and it's not nice plastic like the MS3 had. But I'm still young enough and don't have kids that I can deal with a little less refinement (and a LOT of cabin noise, especially coming from the rear end with aftermarket gears and solid bushings on the rear control arms) in order to have a beast that I love to drive. It just feels violent, for lack of a better term, when I mash the gas, and it always puts a smile on my face. Plus it makes wonderful sounds that the MS3 could never dream of making.

But I'm pretty sure once it's paid off I will be springing for something a little more comfortable that can still haul ###, like the aforementioned CTS-V, lol. I won't be replacing it though. I'm in this one for the long haul. I've never loved a car like I love my Mustang, and I never thought I'd say that about a Mustang as all the Mustangs for the last almost 20 years were meh to me and I was always a Camaro guy.

[Saul_Good]

It's not against a WRX but 'somewhat' similiar. I don't really care for the road test so for an interesting review ffwd to 6:00
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4uDzeDP1eo"]Volkswagen Golf R vs Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR! - Head 2 Head Episode 5 - YouTube[/ame]

[erod550]

That really sucks that you can't turn the traction/stability control completely off. I pretty much drive with all of it off almost all the time in my Mustang. Stiffens up the steering for me and also keeps it from completely shutting me down if I want to do a pull from a light, which it WILL do if you leave it on.