Starting Issues

iani1.1 · Postby **iani1.1** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:14

i had a odessey pc680. its pretty small and light. i dont know about reliability though. it did start up fine when it was about 10 - 0 degrees occasionally. also i always carried a battery jumper just in case.

bellalyssa · Postby **bellalyssa** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

I'm getting annoyed now.

I replaced the battery, the starting issue has not gone away. At this point, I know it isn't the battery or the starter. It's the same issue happening that I posted at the beginning of this thread.

I'm leaning toward the coil packs or an internal fueling issue. The spark plugs are fine, I had one cylinder that was running lean but the fuel injector cleaner took care of that.

I'm still getting the Large Emissions Leak CEL (FML!!!) and I'm going to have to take it into the dealer to get that shit checked out.

I just want my car to run correctly before I build it and mod the bejesus out of it. This may be too much to ask.

tsx_guy · Postby **tsx_guy** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

how is your distributor? my son's incorrectly installed walmart unit crapped out and the dang car wouldn't start. The plugs and battery had been checked/replaced.

tbot · Postby **tbot** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

I bet that CEL is related to your start issues.

Also, whats the exact CEL code that you're getting?

iani1.1 · Postby **iani1.1** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

bellalyssa wrote:I'm getting annoyed now.

I replaced the battery, the starting issue has not gone away. At this point, I know it isn't the battery or the starter. It's the same issue happening that I posted at the beginning of this thread.

I'm leaning toward the coil packs or an internal fueling issue. The spark plugs are fine, I had one cylinder that was running lean but the fuel injector cleaner took care of that.

I'm still getting the Large Emissions Leak CEL (FML!!!) and I'm going to have to take it into the dealer to get that shit checked out.

I just want my car to run correctly before I build it and mod the bejesus out of it. This may be too much to ask.

that large emissions leak could be your gas cap. i had the same cel on mine. replaced the gas cap and solved the problem. though i still have the cel on cause i havent reset the damn thing yet lol

bellalyssa · Postby **bellalyssa** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

I've replaced the gas cap and the CEL is a P0455 "EVAP system leak detected (gross leak)"

We replaced the purge selonoid for this and it keeps coming up. I don't want to take it to the dealer so they can charge me $100 bucks to diagnose and then charge me up the *** to fix it.

tbot · Postby **tbot** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

DTC P0455 = evaporative emissions leak (gross leak) & P0456 is a small leak - you knew that one.

Monitored when:
ignition is off
intake temp is 5-35C (40-95F)
battery is above 11V
atmospheric pressure is 72.2KPA or greater (542mmHg, 21.3inHg)
Fuel tank is between 15 and 85%

This sets the light if it's been seen two consecutive drive cycles, or if it has a pending code set (meaning you weren't in the proper conditions in the last cycle - note above).

Causes per the workshop manual:
purge solenoid valve
evap system leak detection pump
loose / defective filler cap
charcoal canister
fuel tank
evap hose

any leaks in the above pieces will cause a failure, since the system can't hold pressure. I would assume that a fuel leak or leaking fuel injectors could do the same thing as well.

tbot · Postby **tbot** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

also check this out Lyssa

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123743060-CEL-P0171-amp-P0455-and-also-engine-stutters-on-idle

chickenwafer · Postby **chickenwafer** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

This makes me happy I don't have an OBD-II car anymore. When my check engine light comes on, it means something is about to BLOW UP!!! Haha

iani1.1 · Postby **iani1.1** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

lol they should have these on rx7s

chickenwafer · Postby **chickenwafer** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

LOL pretty much.

erod550 · Postby **erod550** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

LOL they must put some pretty defective gas caps on Mazda3's. I had to have my cap replaced too a week after I bought the car.

bellalyssa · Postby **bellalyssa** » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:14

tbot wrote:

Causes per the workshop manual:
purge solenoid valve (replaced)
evap system leak detection pump
loose / defective filler cap (replaced)
charcoal canister (replaced)
fuel tank
evap hose

any leaks in the above pieces will cause a failure, since the system can't hold pressure. I would assume that a fuel leak or leaking fuel injectors could do the same thing as well.

I'll check the fuel system... i need a fog machine lol.

bellalyssa · Postby **bellalyssa** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:14

Well... I can't seem to diagnose the issue so I'm going to let Spradley Barr Mazda up here do it. They only want $65 and they'll check the misfire I've been experiencing as well. Hopefully everything turns out well and I don't need some serious work done to the engine.

tbot · Postby **tbot** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:14

aww, sorry you couldn't figure it out...i know how frustrating that can be. But on the up side, hopefully you're car will back to tip top shape!!!

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