Understeer?

[Huzer21]

Strange, although I'll chalk this event up to the tires being relatively cold (pressure should be spot on, although I'll have to make sure I'm not a pound or two too high). I decide to push the car ever so slightly this weekend, and noticed a tendency of understeer in the car. Other times that I had taken the same corners, I didn't notice that. Then again, I don't think that the Fuzion's are A+ tires, either. Hopefully, I can get out this week, scrub some heat into the rubber, and see if I get the same results.

[MazdaTom]

You just swapped sway bars, right? Front and rear? If you put the factory front bar back in, the car will rotate better. Or you can try loading up the suspension in the corner and then let off the throttle quickly- just kidding: that could lead to a bad situation.

I have the factory Protege ES front sway bar on my car but a Racing Beat Mazdaspeed Protege rear sway bar. The car turns in very nicely now.

And it's fairly common among racers to disconnect the front sway bar to get the car to rotate- usually in autox.

[Buffalo]

You have the same tires in front as well in back correct?

[Huzer21]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MazdaTom @ Nov 5 2007, 11:39 AM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=9530]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

You just swapped sway bars, right? Front and rear? If you put the factory front bar back in, the car will rotate better. Or you can try loading up the suspension in the corner and then let off the throttle quickly- just kidding: that could lead to a bad situation.

I have the factory Protege ES front sway bar on my car but a Racing Beat Mazdaspeed Protege rear sway bar. The car turns in very nicely now.

And it's fairly common among racers to disconnect the front sway bar to get the car to rotate- usually in autox.[/b]

Yup, I replaced front and rear with the RB bars. At first, I was wondering if the same ratio f/r as stock was used. A quick check shows that as true. I thought maybe the front had made a higher percentage stiffer over stock than the rear (hopefully, you can understand what I'm saying there).

[Huzer21]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sleepy Buffalo @ Nov 5 2007, 12:57 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=9541]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

You have the same tires in front as well in back correct?[/b]

Same tires, same size. No stagger or anything. I'll wander around this evening and check it out again, just hadn't experienced the front end push like that with this car yet.

[Huzer21]

I'll chalk it up to cold tires. I was flying around yesterday and didn't experience the understeer as I did before. I need to get this thing out and really drive it. I'd love to get out on a track to get a better idea, the only problem is that I don't think 6'4" me+helmet+sunroof is a very viable combination.

[tsx_guy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Huzer21 @ Nov 7 2007, 01:41 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=9841]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

I'll chalk it up to cold tires. I was flying around yesterday and didn't experience the understeer as I did before. I need to get this thing out and really drive it. I'd love to get out on a track to get a better idea, the only problem is that I don't think 6'4" me+helmet+sunroof is a very viable combination.[/b]

just open the sunroof for extra headroom.... [img]http://coloradomazdaclub.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]

[MazdaTom]

Actually, if you can fit with helmet sticking through the sunroof, I believe you're OK'd for track use. I know a guy who autox'd his Porsche 924 and you could see his helmet sticking through his sunroof as he drove.

There's a track day coming up very soon down in Pueblo with NASA (like next weekend) plus another one at the State Patrol site in Golden. Getting on track is a great way to legally and relatively safe way to explore the limits of your car and your abilities. I hope to get back into that in the near future.

[tsx_guy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MazdaTom @ Nov 7 2007, 02:32 PM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=9856]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

Actually, if you can fit with helmet sticking through the sunroof, I believe you're OK'd for track use. I know a guy who autox'd his Porsche 924 and you could see his helmet sticking through his sunroof as he drove.

There's a track day coming up very soon down in Pueblo with NASA (like next weekend) plus another one at the State Patrol site in Golden. Getting on track is a great way to legally and relatively safe way to explore the limits of your car and your abilities. I hope to get back into that in the near future.[/b]

what does the golden one cost and when is it? I would be curious to push my 6 a little.... [img]http://coloradomazdaclub.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/happy.gif[/img]

[MazdaTom]

The Golden one is like next weekend. I think each one is $150. It's probably too late for the Pueblo one as you have to join NASA, get your car teched (MAC will do it- as will several other shops in town). I'm not sure about the deadline for the Golden one. I was kinda planning on stopping by just to check it out- maybe get a ride or two.

[tsx_guy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MazdaTom @ Nov 8 2007, 07:36 AM) [url=index.php?act=findpost&pid=9948]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div>

The Golden one is like next weekend. I think each one is $150. It's probably too late for the Pueblo one as you have to join NASA, get your car teched (MAC will do it- as will several other shops in town). I'm not sure about the deadline for the Golden one. I was kinda planning on stopping by just to check it out- maybe get a ride or two.[/b]

mmm don't have time to get my car spec'd and I drive like an ass for free on public roads...or until johnny law revokes
my license....