Question about traction...

arctic_blue83 · Postby **arctic_blue83** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

This is what is funny as hell posted on Cobb's website:

"The result is an aggressive stance that will reward you with little "squat" while under hard acceleration, eliminating any front wheel hop you might experience with the OEM suspension."

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3407

LOL. So, are you experiencing wheelhop or wheelspin? There would be more bouncing in the car if you were wheelhopping...

Postby **RX-7 Chris** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

that is what i'm trying to find out.

MazdaTom · Postby **MazdaTom** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

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Yeah the tires just slip constantly if i push it even slightly hard.[/b]

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

Already said wheelspin not wheelhop

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

'arctic_blue83' post='41170' date='Apr 17 2008, 03:15 PM']Dammit Josh... details. Post effin' details. Be specific. The following things would help:

1. Do you have the same motor mount on the new car? Yep which is why I said earlier same mods

2. Is this just occurring in 1st gear? 1st & 2nd? ect. 1st and 2nd gear.

3. What are the spring rates of the Cobb springs, and what were the rates of the stock springs. This is something you should have looked into before buying the new springs.
You just looked at cobbs site so yeah..

4. How much of a drop did you have with the Cobb's? How much travel did your stock suspension have to begin with?
Dropped a total of 1inch.

5. Something you probably wouldn't have checked... but, are you hitting the bump stops when your suspension is compressed?
Um wuh lol and no idea?

Any details would be great...

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Sport Springs

Direct replacement for the factory springs, and designed to work with the factory struts, the COBB Sports Springs reduce the ride height by 1.0" Front and 1.0" Rear. The result is an aggressive stance that will reward you with little "squat" while under hard acceleration, eliminating any front wheel hop you might experience with the OEM suspension. The springs are powdercoated COBB Blue in a unique process for protection against the elements.

Precision CNC cold wound high quality Chrome Silicon steel construction. Spring rates are approximately +15% for the front and +25% for the rear over stock which, results in a sporty feel without being unnecessarily harsh or bouncy. Our final spring rates are the result of extensive real-world and road course testing.

MS3_Mafia · Postby **MS3_Mafia** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

My

... Probably does have to do with lighter Wheels and your Potenzas not being warm enough to grip when under hard acceleration. Personally I think the Potenzas suck ass anyways. Also the Cobb Springs should help your car with the stance/squat to better keep the front end down. I know that with my aggressive drop and new Nitto tires I have a huge improvement compared to stock when launching. I look forward to see an improvement when I get an engine mount.

tsx_guy · Postby **tsx_guy** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

smoke those tires josh then try launching.... let us know....you white trash ho! :lol:

arctic_blue83 · Postby **arctic_blue83** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

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1. Do you have the same motor mount on the new car? Yep which is why I said earlier same mods

Actually you just "everything the same"... try posting something more specific like "I'm using the same motor mount and suspension components as I was on my previous car, with the addition of springs." You know, something that's not vague. Specific.

2. Is this just occurring in 1st gear? 1st & 2nd? ect. 1st and 2nd gear.

3. What are the spring rates of the Cobb springs, and what were the rates of the stock springs. This is something you should have looked into before buying the new springs.
You just looked at cobbs site so yeah..

Yes, yes I did, they don't list their rates. They just said "about 25% & 15% higher", which pisses me off. I like the actual before and after rates... I've seen companies claim rates that were not completely accurate after people actually had them tested. Cobb's springs for STI's are worthless as far as handling & suspension geometry goes, even though they claim a certain rate, I would do a little more research.

4. How much of a drop did you have with the Cobb's? How much travel did your stock suspension have to begin with?
Dropped a total of 1inch.

See, when you don't know how much suspension travel the car has to begin with, that's something you should find out before just lowering the car. There's a lot to suspension geometry.... in many cases, simple lowering springs can be very counter-productive to performance, especially is travel, shock/strut dampening ect isn't taken into consideration.

5. Something you probably wouldn't have checked... but, are you hitting the bump stops when your suspension is compressed?
Um wuh lol and no idea?

Bump stops... you know, the little rubber/poly bushings on your stock shocks/struts that prevent the car from bottoming out... when you hit them, technically your car reverberates to infinity... this is something that should be checked before lowering the car. Some people, on certain cars will cut off a progression or 2 when using lowering springs on stock shocks/struts.[/b]

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

Oh okay so lol um yeah... Brandon the smart one

So with all that said... nevermind... I'll give'm a few more thousand and see if they break in any better well hopefully not cuz hope to have new tires before that!

milehighspeed3 · Postby **milehighspeed3** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

Josh this might not be the advise your looking for, but I read some where on the web that if you are experiencing wheel spin, the best way to combat that is lessen up on the accelerator...

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

oh thats just mean...

RX-7drifter · Postby **RX-7drifter** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:14

hey wait josh lead foot wow thats a j/k

remeber he barely ever drove the red one

SpeedRacer · Postby **SpeedRacer** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:14

least mine runs... :P

Rich · Postby **Rich** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:14

We'll see how it runs at Bandi this season

MS3_Mafia · Postby **MS3_Mafia** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:14

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We'll see how it runs at Bandi this season [/b]

Good one Rich! But I wanna see how yours "runs" on the Highway! Lol

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