Installed: CP-e Standback II EMS

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

OCD wrote:lol, how is the Cobb AP "ready to go"?

It is.

It's ready to go back in the box and then go back to Fed-Ex to get it back to Salt Lake City.

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

OCD wrote:i wouldnt say overpriced in a normal economy.... the standback and the pnp retails for 1095.00, $700 would normally be a pretty good deal for that piece... but as Ive seen in the last month, as well as Troy Im sure too.... the economy sucks ballz right now, and if you want to get rid of parts fast, you've gotta give a good price.. I just dont think Rich is in any big hurry to sell his parts, thats all.

I wasn't speaking of just the SB. The intake was wayyy over priced among other parts. You and I both agreed it was a ripoff if you remember.

Originalguy · Postby **Originalguy** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

OCD wrote:Agreed, drivetrain and block should be solid... the turbo is the problem, along with attached culprits... The hunk of metal Mazda calls an intercooler causes the stock K04 to lose 3-4psi in efficiency as well... Stock boost psi on a speed motor is 15.6psi. We usually see 11-12psi here at altitude. Blowing anything more than 18psi thru that little turbo is asking for trouble, because in reality, up here, to create 18psi, youre asking for 21-22psi to be produced out of that little thing, and believe me, thats pushing the edge when stock k04's blow up.. Ive got the photos to prove it.

Bottom line, yea, theres a safety factor here at altitude, unless you look at the turbo side of things.. keep it safe, especially until you get a tune, and once you realize that 18psi isnt enough, get a new turbo BEFORE you blow up that little k04..

haha i want to see these photos

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

Originalguy wrote:haha i want to see these photos

Blew both my turbos at once in my S4. First pic is actually from 2007, not 2009.

You guys think the Ko4 is small, the stock K03's in the S4 a even smaller.

K03's vs. K04's

Ever see a turbo made for 3800hp? This is "The Russian Red". Look at the coffee can for reference...

More turbos than you can shake a stick at....

http://www.mjmturbos.com/

Originalguy · Postby **Originalguy** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

sweet haha how did you blow both were you just running a hella high pressure?

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

On purpose. I had my buddy that owns Autospeed in New Jersey flash my ecu to have them spike at 24psi and taper to 22 @ redline. Stock they are at 8psi, and the normal flash brought them to 16-18psi max and 12 @ redline.

So I over spun the crap out of them so I could get K04's for free through my after market warranty ;-)

erod550 · Postby **erod550** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

OCD wrote:lol, how is the Cobb AP "ready to go"?

Did I misunderstand how it works? I was under the impression that it plugs right in with no additional equipment needed. Sorry, I'm still new to this platform.

Originalguy · Postby **Originalguy** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

For The AP yes it simply plugs into the obd-II port and writes your maps but it takes about 5 minutes each time and you cant do it on the fly but its easier to install than the CP-e. And as for the purposfully blown KO4, i wish i could do something like that it would be fun. Do you still have the ko4 on or are you on somthing like the GT3701R?

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

Originalguy wrote:And as for the purposfully blown KO4, i wish i could do something like that it would be fun. Do you still have the ko4 on or are you on somthing like the GT3701R?

It was K03's I blew on purpose to obtain K04's. K04's on the S4 are the upgrade turbos. They are efficient up to 25-29psi @ redline on the S4 also. Hot side is completely different than the one on the MS6. Impeller is also different (almost looked clipped). Still baffles me why the MS6 one isn't efficient at higher psi though.

No, still on the stock snail on the MS6 ;-(

erod550 · Postby **erod550** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

So with the AP you can't do "valet mode" or have a switch set up to go between the stock map and the custom map?

TheNewBlack · Postby **TheNewBlack** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

erod550 wrote:So with the AP you can't do "valet mode" or have a switch set up to go between the stock map and the custom map?

Yes you can do all these with the accessport. The cobb loaded maps are more generic than "custom" though, in most cases you will still need to spend $300-$350 to have a true custom map made to suit your car best.

Originalguy · Postby **Originalguy** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

and for the vallet mode i would imagine that it would switch instantly but if you download the PDF the website has you can read about how it works

Eclipse · Postby **Eclipse** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

LaginWagon · Postby **LaginWagon** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

Wasn't that the "hybrid" you had for a hot minute? I remember seeing that on your bench.

Eclipse · Postby **Eclipse** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:14

that was the PG "reworked" k04... had it for 4 months

which was 4 month longer than I had the PTP reworked K04

Installed: CP-e Standback II EMS

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