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Postby speedjunkie » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:14

erod550 wrote:HP per liter? Now you sound like a Honda owner lol.


That may be, but a Honda owner is comparing his HP per liter to a lawn mower. I'm comparing a ~340hp FD HP per liter to a McLaren. Yep, Howard Coleman on 7club does these figures all day long. And a stock FD has more HP per liter than, IIRC, a Vette ZR1.

alex_n/a wrote:I guess you are right. I'm more of a fan of the rx7, I love my rx7 so much I would do anything to keep it on the road and away from the junkyard that I would stick a piston engine in it. I would even cut holes on the floor and flinstone it. :lol:


That's weird, I've never seen a Honda run on only 3 pistons, even then, it's still 3/4 of the pistons there lol. When Simon blew his engine a couple years ago, I think he had one apex seal left in the whole engine. We poured some ATF in there and push started it, and as long as he kept it above 1500rpm it would stay running.

Actually I think an N/A rotary might still win in that HP per liter argument. I'd have to run the numbers though to be sure.

And I think a rotary is a little more forgiving with water getting in than a piston engine. My buddy in NC swapped an LS1 into his FD and blew that engine not long after by sucking water in and sending a rod through the side. Never seen that happen on a rotary lol. As a matter of fact I PURPOSELY shoot water into my engine lol. At the very most you might blow the apex seals, depending on which ones you're using.

PXRdriFT wrote:I think your "holier than thou" attitude is a disgrace.

Some people don't buy the car because they are fans of the rotory. Many buy the car because they are fans of the actual car. Me being one. If you would rather burn your car than put a V8 in it, that's absolutely fantastic. Do whatever the hell you want. Its your car. Just don't proceed to cast judgement because everyone doesn't share the same opinion.


I don't have a problem with people that love the car for just the car itself and not the engine. What I DO have a problem with is people making judgements on an engine they know nothing about and claiming that another type of engine is so much better when they have no personal experience to base it on. That's when I get upset. Not that you've ever done that, I'm just saying.

PXRdriFT wrote:Name one rotary FD at your house thats running? :huh::lol::D


That may be, but I can rebuild my own engine and do pretty much anything else to the car myself, and I'd also much rather have my car on jackstands for years on end than have any engine other than a rotary under the hood. To me, the rotary is the soul of the RX-7, but I guess that's just me.

Besides...

Zico's had nothing to do with the engine, his was a wiring issue (just like most problems with rotaries, they usually have nothing to do with the engine itself, it's the weak support structure for it.)

Simon's (two years ago when it blew) had to do with him upping the boost too much and not tuning it for the increased boost, same that would happen to a piston engine.

Mine...still not sure why it wouldn't run other than the rear bearing, and I'm guessing that's just my fault for not getting a new one when I built it.
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Postby BRC » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

Imagehmmm.... i didnt mean for the thread to turn into another all out rotary vs piston debate. I love the rotary for what it is and for the amazing things it accomplished out of a fun sized package. For what I wanted to acheive the v8 was a smarter way to go. Ive known tons of people with rotaries that, reliability wise, rival some hondas; but what I want the car to do overall I cant get with a rotary. Eventually ill get another one, 10th anniversary t2, and restore it to its 80's glory with the o.e. rotary intact alive and well. Either way this dosent need to be a million page long debate about rotary vs. piston. It coulda been worse... I coulda got a civic... (cringe)
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Postby iani1.1 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

we all know there's now way you'd get a civic. even if you did we wouldnt believe it or accept it HAHA

dont get me wrong hondas are great DDs but thats it. especially with gas prices nowadays
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Postby BRC » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

I think if gas started to affect me and I had to stop driving my Range Rover (heaven forbid) I would probably get a bike... or run my lamborfeeti... but deffinetly not a civic.
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Postby speedjunkie » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

BRC wrote:Imagehmmm.... i didnt mean for the thread to turn into another all out rotary vs piston debate. I love the rotary for what it is and for the amazing things it accomplished out of a fun sized package. For what I wanted to acheive the v8 was a smarter way to go. Ive known tons of people with rotaries that, reliability wise, rival some hondas; but what I want the car to do overall I cant get with a rotary. Eventually ill get another one, 10th anniversary t2, and restore it to its 80's glory with the o.e. rotary intact alive and well. Either way this dosent need to be a million page long debate about rotary vs. piston. It coulda been worse... I coulda got a civic... (cringe)


True, my bad. I know of a 10AE in mint condition that a friend had a few years ago and it had 7k miles on the odo. It just sold to a guy in PR though haha.
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Postby erod550 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

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Awesome graphic lol.
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Postby iani1.1 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:14

BRC wrote:I think if gas started to affect me and I had to stop driving my Range Rover (heaven forbid) I would probably get a bike... or run my lamborfeeti... but deffinetly not a civic.


i rode the r6 around all week last week except friday. spent 13 doll hairs on gas LOL
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Postby BRC » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:14

After a 9 hour drive I finally got the motor home. It looked alot closer on the map than it did in reality too. The motor is in a little better shape that it looked in the pictures so that was a bonus. Now I need to source a shifter assembly and a M.A.F.
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Postby iani1.1 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:14

nice, i could use that t2 in the black one LOL
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Postby Learjet45 » Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:14

Do it Ian!
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Postby PXRdriFT » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14

Lookin' good. If you're planning on doing the wiring yourself and need some help, let me know.

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Postby BRC » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14

im sure I could use a hand with the wiring. When it comes time to start the wiring nightmare ill give ya a call. Apparently I need to source a diag. port too.
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Postby coloskydiver » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14

Motor looks great. Where did you have to go get it and did you get a good deal on it?
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Postby PXRdriFT » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:14

BRC wrote:im sure I could use a hand with the wiring. When it comes time to start the wiring nightmare ill give ya a call. Apparently I need to source a diag. port too.


http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonnection/SearchByEngineType.aspx

Put in your engine and you'll find many connectors for your motor.

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Postby BRC » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:14

coloskydiver wrote:Motor looks great. Where did you have to go get it and did you get a good deal on it?


I took what felt like a week long trip to Garden City KS last sunday. Paid 3200 for everything and saw documentation for a rebuild, head port/polish, 5 angle valve job, mild cam, long tube headers, and tune.
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